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		<title>By: Athene Aquinas</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2005/08/a-nation-of-debtors/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Athene Aquinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Ken... Finally got around to adding your blog.  Keep up the straight talk.... WE all need it. :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Toodles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Ken&#8230; Finally got around to adding your blog.  Keep up the straight talk&#8230;. WE all need it. <img src='http://commonsenseworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Toodles</p>
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		<title>By: 6sec</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you have a great blog here! I'm definitely going to bookmark you!&lt;br/&gt;I have a &lt;a HREF="http://www.creditcarddebtadvice.net/" REL="nofollow"&gt;do it yourself credit repair&lt;/a&gt; site. It pretty much covers do it yourself credit repair related stuff.&lt;br/&gt;Come and check it out if you get time :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you have a great blog here! I&#8217;m definitely going to bookmark you!<br />I have a <a HREF="http://www.creditcarddebtadvice.net/" REL="nofollow">do it yourself credit repair</a> site. It pretty much covers do it yourself credit repair related stuff.<br />Come and check it out if you get time <img src='http://commonsenseworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Chandira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chandira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can't say I have it all handled though.. lol.. I'm on the same thoughtwave as you about the overindulgence.. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say I have it all handled though.. lol.. I&#8217;m on the same thoughtwave as you about the overindulgence.. <img src='http://commonsenseworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ken Grandlund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Grandlund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(responses)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Duwbyrd- Thanks for the comment. Hope to hear from you again.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Chandira- Interesting comments here, and definitely some food for thought. Money, food, and sex do seem to be prime motivators for humans,as you say, but overindulgence in any of these can have negative consequences. Too much food and we get fat and unhealthy. Too much debt and we get miserable and desperate. Too much sex and we get.....okay, maybe sex doesn't fit this model well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I want for people to stop looking at money as an end in itself and more as a means to an end, that end being a happy life and not a stressful or corrupt one.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As always, thanks for leaving your two cents.</description>
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<p>Duwbyrd- Thanks for the comment. Hope to hear from you again.</p>
<p>Chandira- Interesting comments here, and definitely some food for thought. Money, food, and sex do seem to be prime motivators for humans,as you say, but overindulgence in any of these can have negative consequences. Too much food and we get fat and unhealthy. Too much debt and we get miserable and desperate. Too much sex and we get&#8230;..okay, maybe sex doesn&#8217;t fit this model well.</p>
<p>I want for people to stop looking at money as an end in itself and more as a means to an end, that end being a happy life and not a stressful or corrupt one.</p>
<p>As always, thanks for leaving your two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Chandira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chandira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'fraid I didn't read all the post, or all the comments, as I'm trying also to get some office work done between blogging.. ;-) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I just wanted to add my '2 cents', pun intended. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I grew up in a very different system, with a vastly different set of beliefs about money than the 'average' American. Not that my way was right, jsut different. It has it's own complications. I've never had a credit card, I've always had debit. I've always been afraid of getting into debt. As a kid, there was always a massive stigma attached to it in the general pysche of the English. Debt was shameful, and best avoided, even if you went without. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Money is life force energy, the same as any other form of life energy, we do the same things with it that we do with food and sex, if you really study it. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The common egoic pattern of money use is degenerative, as opposed to regenerative. Regenerative is to set up a pattern where your money brings you more money, or your sexual energy is conducted through the whole body, not just blown off through localised gential orgasm, but chanelled and converted into ecstasy, into a total lust for life as a whole.&lt;br/&gt;Spending money can have the affect of orgasm, temporarily satisfying, distracting from our present condition of fragility in the world, but ultimately depleting of resources. Same with that extra sandwich or piece of chocolate..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;fraid I didn&#8217;t read all the post, or all the comments, as I&#8217;m trying also to get some office work done between blogging.. <img src='http://commonsenseworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I just wanted to add my &#8216;2 cents&#8217;, pun intended. </p>
<p>I grew up in a very different system, with a vastly different set of beliefs about money than the &#8216;average&#8217; American. Not that my way was right, jsut different. It has it&#8217;s own complications. I&#8217;ve never had a credit card, I&#8217;ve always had debit. I&#8217;ve always been afraid of getting into debt. As a kid, there was always a massive stigma attached to it in the general pysche of the English. Debt was shameful, and best avoided, even if you went without. </p>
<p>Money is life force energy, the same as any other form of life energy, we do the same things with it that we do with food and sex, if you really study it. </p>
<p>The common egoic pattern of money use is degenerative, as opposed to regenerative. Regenerative is to set up a pattern where your money brings you more money, or your sexual energy is conducted through the whole body, not just blown off through localised gential orgasm, but chanelled and converted into ecstasy, into a total lust for life as a whole.<br />Spending money can have the affect of orgasm, temporarily satisfying, distracting from our present condition of fragility in the world, but ultimately depleting of resources. Same with that extra sandwich or piece of chocolate..</p>
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		<title>By: duwbryd</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2005/08/a-nation-of-debtors/#comment-702</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Ken, Great Blog!</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Grandlund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Grandlund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(responses)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;angel- glad to hear from you again. Credit is a double edged sword all right...nice to have, but easy to abuse. Especially when people aren't taught even the basics of personal finance.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Christa- You seem to have a good grasp on what is and isn't the most important thing in life- money we need to get along and go along, but it's not all that matters. A paradigm shift needs to occur whereby people can actually think in those terms. Until then, at least we could help people learn how to keep from going in the financial hole.  &lt;br/&gt;Glad you dropped by.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rudicus- Most people, including me, have fallen into the debt trap, and there are only two ways out: hard work and discipline to eradicating the debt or bankruptcy. Fortunately, I'm out of the trap, but if I had learned some financing principals as a kid, it would have been an easier road for sure.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your perceptions about the battle to really reform the credit is right on, but when people take back the power, elect honest politicians who will do what is right, things can change. I'll just keep talking about it and hope that Common Sense catches on.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And predatory practices need to be eliminated as well. The only reason the credit companies have such influence is their big pockets, a lot of it extracted from people who have no knowledge of the credit game.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Glad you dropped in.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;JLP- Yep- education is the key. Parents need to develop their own realistic budgets and talk to their kids about it when they are old enough. And schools should play their part too with actual classes teaching about savings, checking, credit, interest, and the works.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the comment.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;CK- Thanks.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jude- Individuals are responsible for their credit messes to a certain degree, but the irresponsible granting of credit are just as liable for the trouble most people are in. And unless you bay the credit bill in full each month, you'r epaying far more that the sticker price for anything you buy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for leaving some thoughts.</description>
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<p>angel- glad to hear from you again. Credit is a double edged sword all right&#8230;nice to have, but easy to abuse. Especially when people aren&#8217;t taught even the basics of personal finance.</p>
<p>Christa- You seem to have a good grasp on what is and isn&#8217;t the most important thing in life- money we need to get along and go along, but it&#8217;s not all that matters. A paradigm shift needs to occur whereby people can actually think in those terms. Until then, at least we could help people learn how to keep from going in the financial hole.  <br />Glad you dropped by.</p>
<p>Rudicus- Most people, including me, have fallen into the debt trap, and there are only two ways out: hard work and discipline to eradicating the debt or bankruptcy. Fortunately, I&#8217;m out of the trap, but if I had learned some financing principals as a kid, it would have been an easier road for sure.</p>
<p>Your perceptions about the battle to really reform the credit is right on, but when people take back the power, elect honest politicians who will do what is right, things can change. I&#8217;ll just keep talking about it and hope that Common Sense catches on.</p>
<p>And predatory practices need to be eliminated as well. The only reason the credit companies have such influence is their big pockets, a lot of it extracted from people who have no knowledge of the credit game.</p>
<p>Glad you dropped in.</p>
<p>JLP- Yep- education is the key. Parents need to develop their own realistic budgets and talk to their kids about it when they are old enough. And schools should play their part too with actual classes teaching about savings, checking, credit, interest, and the works.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>CK- Thanks.</p>
<p>Jude- Individuals are responsible for their credit messes to a certain degree, but the irresponsible granting of credit are just as liable for the trouble most people are in. And unless you bay the credit bill in full each month, you&#8217;r epaying far more that the sticker price for anything you buy.</p>
<p>Thanks for leaving some thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jude Nagurney Camwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jude Nagurney Camwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting piece, Ken. I'm glad you drove home the point that credit requires responsibility on both sides - those requesting credit and those granting it. My Dad taught me the value of a good solid dollar bill in my hand - we tend to forget the value when we're whipping out the credit card and postponing the careful thought about what we're actually going to wind up paying for later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting piece, Ken. I&#8217;m glad you drove home the point that credit requires responsibility on both sides - those requesting credit and those granting it. My Dad taught me the value of a good solid dollar bill in my hand - we tend to forget the value when we&#8217;re whipping out the credit card and postponing the careful thought about what we&#8217;re actually going to wind up paying for later.</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.</description>
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		<title>By: JLP</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that we NEED to start teaching our kids financial responsibility.  One way to do so is to give them an allowance and MAKE them save a portion of it.  For instance, with our boys, we make them save 25% for long-term stuff like college and 25% for short-term items like a new bicycle or skateboard.  They also tithe (for non-Christians, this could be "charity").  They are are still relatively young but as soon as they are old enough, I will start teaching them about proper credit usage.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;JLP&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF="http://allthingsfinancial.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow"&gt;AllThingsFinancial&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we NEED to start teaching our kids financial responsibility.  One way to do so is to give them an allowance and MAKE them save a portion of it.  For instance, with our boys, we make them save 25% for long-term stuff like college and 25% for short-term items like a new bicycle or skateboard.  They also tithe (for non-Christians, this could be &#8220;charity&#8221;).  They are are still relatively young but as soon as they are old enough, I will start teaching them about proper credit usage.</p>
<p>JLP</p>
<p><a HREF="http://allthingsfinancial.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">AllThingsFinancial</a></p>
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