Comments on: Not My Party (Originally posted 1-8-05) https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/ Thoughts on Politics and Life Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:22:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.32 By: Ken Grandlund https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1071 Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:31:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1071 (response)

Anon- Of course I would never actually turn in a commenter to the Feds for merely being annoying, but I think your cowardice is simply apalling. It’s pretty easy to spew your own B.S. while hiding under your rock of anonymity. Grow up and grow a pair and stand firmly behind what you think or leave the comments to people who at least assume some kind of identity.

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By: Ken Grandlund https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1070 Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:09:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1070 (responses)

Anon- There is no “you people” writing on this blog. Aside from the comments of my readers, there is just me, Ken Grandlund, the author of every post on this web site. And yes…I do believe what I write. On the otherhand, you are too cowardly to even use your real name to stand behind what you say.

Be careful…if I decided that your comment was meant simply to annoy me, I could refer you to the federal government. There is a new law signed by the president that makes “annoying comments” over the internet a federal crime. Of course, this is probably the president you voted for. (And believe me…he has ways of finding out who you REALLY are.)

Kathryn- Sadly, party politics keep people with visions different from the party platform out before they can offer thier vision. Kucinich obviously had a good platform of his own, but was drowned out by the party machine, offering citizens less choice than they deserve. Thanks for dropping by.

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By: Kathryn Beach https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1069 Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:57:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1069 Dennis Kucinich was my choice rather than Nader. His platform:
1. Immediate withdrawal from the WTO and NAFTA.
2. Moving U.S. troops out of Iraq and replacing them with UN peacekeepers.
3. Ending the drug war.
4. Abolishing the death penalty.
5. Preventing the privatization of social security.
6. Ratifying the ABM Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
7. Introducing reforms to bring about instant-runoff voting.
8. Creating a single-payer system of universal health care.
9. Creating a cabinet-level “Department of Peace”
10. Legalizing same-sex marriage.
11. Repealing the USA PATRIOT Act.
12. Full social security benefits at age 65.
13. Environmental renewal and clean energy.

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By: Anonymous https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1068 Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:54:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1068 You people are amazing. You sound like you actually belive the bullshit you spew…

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By: Ken Grandlund https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1067 Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:04:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1067 (responses)

Windspike- I think that the nature of congress today requires more than just outing the incumbents in favor of the other party. After all, Democrats are a sculpable for the problems we face today since they’ve done little to stop the republican onslaught for the last 10 years. We need real people who aren’t party stooges.

Shea- Thanks.

Pat- I’m not exclusively talking about presidential politics- after all, without a congress full of sycophants, the pres is only so powerful. third party politicians or true independents can offer a wall against the excesses of both parties, but only if they are elected. put some independents in congress and things could change. it’s also an easier position to elect non party hacks to.

eko- i agree with your thought here- we need a broad based movement at the bottom of the federal ladder- elect enough independents to congress and change can occur.

snave- you’re welcome. i believe that you can despise the machinations of government while still wanting the best for America. Clinton wasn’t always right now was he?

Rev- thanks for dropping by. yes, it will take more than just voting for new blood, but if the new blood is truly of the people and can energize more people to get involved, it is a start.

mike- i can’t speculate what might have been. i see what is and it’s not pretty. we need a paradigm shift in thinking about how we work our government, something that can only be achieved when real people take the reins for a while.

hammer- yes, it is our own fault for returning time and again the same people who really don’t care about helping people as much as they do keeping power. thanks for dropping by.

rev- unless of course you elect enough “non-k street” adherents who aren’t listening to special interests but to the people and who have and use common sense.

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By: rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1066 Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:52:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1066 Mike V.

only in the most superficial ways are you correct. remember the “no-teeth” fight clinton gave Kyoto? all fuss and no muscle. you do not get it my friend. the lever does not do the job, that is for lazy assess. If k street clients do not want a bill passed (Kyoto) it does not get passed. the real power lies there. it does not matter who you elect. until you get k street on your side (and you can) only superficial changes will occur. until you get this, you will only be involved in a tennis match for idiots.

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By: Hammer https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1065 Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:32:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1065 Hey, nice post. I jsut read some really interesting Chomsky about this stuff. “The failure of federal, local and state governments and out attention” (is how I would summarize it).

He talks about our constant distraction with foreign affairs. He talks about the manufacture of consent from the ‘free’ man to remain in his oppressive chains as long as he feels he is “at peace” with the world. (I mean, how easy is it to feel at peace when someone tells you that you are!).

Anyway, you might like to read his essays (if you havent’ already).

Keep blogging!

Hammer

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By: Mike V. https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1064 Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:35:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1064 I do agree with your post for the most part, but in the case of say, the president, I think you might be able to drive at least an SUV between what 5 years of Gore would have been compared to 5 years of W.
No war in Iraq.
Gore would not have signed the anti-bankruptcy bill.
He would be behind Kyoto.
I don’t think he would have signed the bloated highway bill.
He would not have gutted FEMA and shoved it under “Homeland Security”.
Just a few things off the top of my head..

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By: rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1063 Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:54:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1063 You are singing my song brother, but i go much farther out. The real problem is us throwing a lever, and that’s our sense of participation. one we have to watch them like hawks. two we have to force the real power, K street to make them follow through, by use of boycotts. three, we have to stop expecting laws to solve our problems, we have to roll up our sleeves and work together. there your post is dead on. a new party is not the answer, individual involvement is.

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By: Snave https://commonsenseworld.com/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1062 Thu, 12 Jan 2006 06:28:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/01/09/not-my-party-originally-posted-1-8-05/#comment-1062 Thanks for posting this again, Ken. I missed it a year ago, and it is excellent.

You write:

“Government was created to provide certain basic needs of society. It provides public security. It regulates and enforces laws. It creates and regulates an economic base for business and labor. It provides some level of infrastructure. It defends the inherent rights of humanity, namely freedom of religion and thought and the chance for a happy life. Everything that our government does should fall into one of those main categories.”

I agree with you 100%.

Bill Clinton said “You can’t say you love your country but hate your government.” Well, I suppose a person could say that, but if they say they hate the government, do they then hate the things the government provides?

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