Comments on: Oil, Debt, Nukes, China, Iran, and George W. Bush https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/ Thoughts on Politics and Life Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:22:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.32 By: Liam https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1327 Thu, 11 May 2006 00:31:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1327 I honestly can’t decide which scares me more: The thought that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest are purely self-interested, playing to (and paying lip service to) their base in the Religious Right and elsewhere in order to maintain support, or the thought that Bush honestly believes that he’s doing God’s work on Earth and that God has led him to do all of this.

Because very little of what Bush has done fits in with what I learned of the Christian morality, growing up in the Presbyterian church. Which lends credence not to it actually BEING God’s will, but being a madman who hears voices and has convinced himself they are the words of God. Who knows what such a man might do, always convinced that he had the moral high ground, because after all, what could be more moral than obeying the direct and unambiguous word of God?

It’s far easier on my blood pressure, I think, to believe that Bush is either feigning his support for things Christian (as he does his “just plain folksiness”) or is truly the village idiot figurehead for the evil puppetmasters behind him than to believe he honestly and truly is in control and believes he’s being directed by God.

Lord help us all if it’s true.

Liam.

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By: Ken Grandlund https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1326 Tue, 09 May 2006 06:01:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1326 (response)

Commentator-Maybe it is unlikely, but not in the realm of impossible.
Which would hurt China more- the loss of US markets or the loss of easy fossil fuel? They can still find markets for their trinkets, especially if US policy makes us a pariah state of sorts.

As for China’s internal problems, I’ve seen no indications that would lead me to believe that they could not quell most revolts ala Tianneman Square. While there certainly is more prosperity in China, that does not equate to freedom, and their culture has milleniums old history of autocracy to break out of.

The religious zealot element in US politics is enjoying a crest right now, but the length of their ride is yet to be determined. They may well have over-played their hand a bit, but again, events may be created to assist their longevity.

Jackson’s push to the West, and Wilsons detente ( and then some) with the Western Hemisphere were different than Bush’s own doctrine of expansion in several ways, not least of those the fire power under his disposal.

Canadian oil…mostly in shale, right? Turns out that America’s ever prescient Congress passed some laws about oil company exploration costs or tax levies or something along that nature being tax free once oil passed $50 a barrel. (I’m a bit too lazy to get the exact details, but bottom line is it increases their bottom line.) Extraction of once costly fossil fuel is now profitable.

Sure we do ruffle feathers in the U.S. Partly because of our prosperity, partly because of how we achieved it. Yes, we are both envied and despised. It is a hard dichotomy to live with, but we’ve earned both reputations. BUt we are facing an extreme administration with access to horrible weaponry and less than stable or competant administrators. Troubling times my friend.

Jefferson may indeed be looking for a renewed rebirth of governing from his desk in Monticello.

Thanks for the comment.

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By: The Commentator https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1325 Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1325 Well said Ken. Hear are my thoughts from up here in Canada. A war between the dragon and the eagle is unlikely. It would be against China’s interest to call-in U.S. securities. Asia has amassed a dearth of cash and they have to put it somewhere. The U.S. will remain the choice of destination for the foreseeable future. China has way too many internal problems – including an Islamic fundamentalist one – to engage the U.S. More importantly, they know India and the U.S. are allies now. Geo-politics are in America’s favor for now. I remain unconvinced of the religious power in the U.S. Yes, it does have some voting weight but to direct and guide U.S. policy? I point to Bush’s record which seems right in-line with the doctrines laid down by Jackson with a sprinkle of Wilsonian idealism – dare I say he’s doing nothing out of the ordinary? Canada is indeed rich in oil – getting to it is another matter. The Alberta sands is deep and rich but America is addicted to OPEC prices for now. Last, I see America as less a bully than a nation with an overflow of power that is bound to ruffle any country whatever they do. They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t in a cynical world. It’s a tough gig being the leader of a nation with the high standards it has prescribed itself. My concern is how contemporary America is misinterpreting the Constitution. In fact, to me anyway, it follows what is happening here as Canada is dictated by the Charter. At this pace, criminals will be able to band as a lobby group. The Declaration of Independence is the single most poetically brilliant document ever penned. I wonder how its signatories would view the state of affairs. I can picture Jefferson saying “pack it up boys. Start over.” Great post.

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By: Ken Grandlund https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1324 Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:18:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1324 (responses)

To everyone- my apologies for the delay in responding.

Marinade Dave- I would like to agree with you, but then look at Iraq. Everyone rolled over on that one. I hope I am wrong, I really do. Current events lead me to be worried. Thanks for the comment.

David Schantz- Yes, scary indeed. And which ‘God’ speaks to Bush anyhow?

Young Activist- Indeed. And that is part and parcel of our current global problems. This administration has sold our country and its future to foreign nations like never before. If we don’t go down due to war it will be to economic collapse, unless current trends are quickly changed.
Thanks for dropping by.

Web Loafer- Good to hear from you again. Yes, I’ve seen the polls. They are part of the reason I’m running for Congress. It would seem that people not only want an alternative to the two party system, they are practicallyl begging for it. I hope to offer that option and see if the whining is for real.
As for making decisions based on polls, that all depends on what the decision is about. Some things necessarily must follow the will of the people, say like an overwhelming desire to keep Social Security, albeit with some necessasry revisions.
Others, like ensuring equality for all people regardless of race, sex, etc. is a constitutional given and not restricted by occassional uproar of the masses.

English Ranter- Thanks for dropping in. And granted, America’s government has made a mess of things lately. We aren’t all in lock step over here though, so don’t paint us all in the same brush. Sadly, our government gives us our international reputation these days, and I can’t blame other nationas for not really looking kindly on us these days.

Shea- yeah, I know all about our Canadian and Mexican fuel imports and that they surpass those from the Middle East. We still get a lot from the Middle East though, as does China, our current economic rival. And that is part of why I think Bush wants to conquer so badly those areas. Leverage, control and money. Simple and stupid.

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By: SheaNC https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1323 Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:07:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1323 And hey, Mexico is second, but “conservatives” are alienating them with anti-Mexican sentiments… I dunno…

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By: SheaNC https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1322 Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:06:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1322 This might sound like a weird offshoot of this topic, but what do you think about the fact that Canada is our top petroleum supplier? They don’t have the most, but they’re our biggest source. Does it seem odd that we haven’t dug our claws more deeply into Canada? Or is their new conservative government evidence that it is already happening? Or do the Saudis have first dibs? I dunno…

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By: ENGLISH RANTER https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1321 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:01:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1321 Hi there, like some of your stuff. I think you assumption that the US and China will eventually end up at war is wrong, but I agree with the fears you have. I think that WW3 will come with a micro act of nuclear terrorism. America invaded iraq and afghanistan after 9/11. Imagine what it’s blood thirsty population (present company excepted, of course) would want if someone nuked, say, Dallas?
Good luck with the blog and the campaign. I’m not anti-American, but you guys really know how to FXXK things up sometimes.
E.R.

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By: web_loafer https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1320 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:31:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1320 Hi Ken,
Have you seen the latest polls on the approval rating of the Senate and Congress.
About half of President Bush’s approval rating.
This is not a Dem or Rep thing, Americans are disgusted with their representatives, both Dem and Rep.
Hopefully you will learn from all the bad of today and work for a better tomorrow.
Will you be making decisions before or after checking the polls?
Catch you later.

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By: young_activist https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1319 Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:19:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1319 The national debt is probably the most important and ignored issue facing the country today. 90% of that debt is held overseas and using questionable accounting practices the government has hid $2 trillion worth of our debt is the Scoial Security surplus, the actaul debt is closer to $10.5 trillion. This is an unsustainable pattern of spending and an issue that must be adressed by those in Washington immediatly. But, as long as voter will take tax breaks in exchange for the votes reckless spending will continue. http://payyourshare.blogspot.com/

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By: David Schantz https://commonsenseworld.com/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1318 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:26:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2006/04/11/oil-debt-nukes-china-iran-and-george-w-bush/#comment-1318 Recently I read that God speaks to President Bush, (http://arepublic.blogspot.com/2006/04/conversation-with-god.html)this frightens me.

God Bless America, God Save The Republic.

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