Comments on: The Doctor Will Be With You Shortly… https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/ Thoughts on Politics and Life Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:22:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.32 By: Anonymous https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-408 Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:09:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-408 You have a great blog here! I will be sure to book mark you. I have a top 10 home base business
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By: jon https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-407 Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:10:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-407 us medical school ranking surfing tonight I saw your blog. I liked it and wondered how you did that? Anyway, its a cool us medical school ranking site…

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By: Ken Grandlund https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-406 Tue, 31 May 2005 07:12:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-406 (responses)

Abraham- If you look at my concept of the neighborhood clinic, you will see that it is built on a “home care” approach without actuall going to your home. But the idea is to decrease costs by using a form of “symptomatic triage” and moving from the bottom to the top of the ladder and not just jumping top the top because it gets the hospital more money.
Thanks for the comment.

Hypatia- Great Question! The archives are indexed on a weekly basis rather than by date of post. If you are looking for a specific date, click on the weekly archive date of that closest preceded your desired post. For instance, to read the posts from 1.4 & 1.5, you would click the archive for 1.2.2005.

Not to worry though. Soon I’ll post a table of contents to help alleviate the ever growing archive list.

Thanks for the interest and for dropping by. Hope you enjoy what you find!

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By: Hypatia Theon https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-405 Mon, 30 May 2005 20:40:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-405 You say, “I suggest reading the first two posts from 1.4.05 (A Return to Common Sense) and 1.5.05 (What is Common Sense?)in that order before getting too far into the more recent posts.”
I’d be very interested in reading those – particularly with an eye towards discovery of common interests such that I would link my blog to yours; however, neither of those dates appear in your archive list, so would you be a dear and e-mail either the posts or their links to me?
Thanks, Hypatia Theon

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By: Abraham https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-404 Mon, 30 May 2005 11:31:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-404 Well. Having just come home from the hospital and the ER, I am thankful for the treatment I got even if it cost my insurance company over $26,000.00 for three days. Having said that, I can suggest ways to eliminate the high costs of health care but nobody, not even doctors, want to hear it because it takes steps backwards they don’t want to take. And that is home visits by doctors. I could have called the family doctor and he could have come out and told me I wasn’t having a heart attack and the total cost of that visit would have not been enough to make one of his house payments. So when you talk about the high cost of health care in America there are ways to reduce those costs but doctors don’t want to do it. It is called “Specialization” and on and on.

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By: Ken Grandlund https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-403 Mon, 30 May 2005 07:03:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-403 (responses)

Windspike- You make several good points, that mirror some of what I propose. Our system is backwards with regards to new doctors working long hours in ER centers. Their inexperience may save the for-profit hospitals some bucks, but at the expense fo their patients. The motive should be care above profit. Also, coupling their inexperience with sleep deprivation is a ridiculous formula. No wonder they’re using it! No Common Sense…

Thanks for the thoughful contributions to this post.

David- I once lived in a small, one-hospital town that people “in the know” would glady travel 150 miles to avoid. From misdiagnoses to poor treatment to less than pleasant staff, it was a nightmare. I can’t tell you why it was this way, only that it was.
The number of facilities should be proportionate to the population they serve. We don’t need them to cost hundreds of millions of dollars to be effective either. Not as much as we just need them.
Thanks for dropping back by.

Laane- I fully agree that people need to learn to recognize what illness is “doctor-worthy.” In our era of non-prescription remedies and preventive health education, we should have at the very least some self-litmus test that says, “Time to see a doctor,” or, “You can handle this one.”
Breaks and gashes and unknown. prolonged illness do need attention, but certainly not every stomach ache or bruised knee.
Thanks for the comment.

Stormwind- Glad to have you drop by. Yes, there is a lot of ways to seek improvement if we just move a bit outside the parameters of the current stagnant conversation. i don’t think what I propose is in any way revolutionary, except that I am actually proposing it, instead of searching for a way to maintain the status quo while altering only the appearances.

Agreed that there is a dangling element regarding costs of care for long term or serious illness- always another element to consider.

Glad you enjoyed the psot. Hope you drop by again.

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By: Stormwind https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-402 Sun, 29 May 2005 19:26:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-402 This is an interesting discussion of a possible foundation for a health care delivery system. You suggest several things that might work well and not leave anyone out. On site lab techs (such as my doctor had when I was growing up) for routine bloodwork and simple xrays might be included without blowing the costs up out of proportion. The mix of public and private also seems to make sense as long as it didn’t result in a dimunitive quality of care for those who couldn’t afford private care in serious illness cases. Thank you for the post, it gives a lot of food for thought.

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By: Laane https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-401 Sat, 28 May 2005 09:14:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-401 Hi!
We have our own family physician here, 5 minutes away. Very convenient….????

The same problem there: 2 days in advance making an appointment.
He doesn’t work from 17.00 till 8.00.
We have to a kind of family phycisians center..
That’s about an hour away by buss.
We have no car, so that means an expensive taxi. And a dr. who knows nothing about me.

To be short: this doesn’t work either.

People have to take more responsibility for their own health and should be able to see if one really needs a doctor’s help.

I hardly went with my children. Not for a cough, not for a children’s disease. No need.

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By: David Schantz https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-400 Sat, 28 May 2005 04:36:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-400 I live in a town that has a population of right around 75,000. We have one hospital. There are some small clinics but they are owned or controlled by the hospital. The size of the hospital continues to grow and the cost of medical care continues to rise but the quality of health care continues to decrese. It’s ok if you need emergenct care but if you know your going to stay in for a while most people in this area will suggest you go to a neighboring city.

God Bless America, God Save The Republic

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By: windspike https://commonsenseworld.com/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-399 Fri, 27 May 2005 17:30:00 +0000 http://annafiltest.wordpress.com/2005/05/27/the-doctor-will-be-with-you-shortly%e2%80%a6/#comment-399 Ken, you have put your finger on a hot button once again. It gets to an interesting dilemma. How do we increases or better yet, open the access to propper healthcare for those who need it?

A preliminary question, which you raise, but don’t necessarily center the post on is the number of Doctors, or as I like to put it, the pipeline to becoming a qualified physician is seriously constricted, if not broken.

On of the most troubling situations about the whole medical industry, at least in my book, is how Doctors are educated and trained. In a addictive fashion, hospitals lean heavily on undertrained pupils to staff their buildings for 30 plus hours at a stretch. These residents, appropriately tittled, I might add, are theoretically supervised by a thoroughly trained and licensed physician. Unfortuantely, at the tail end of yet another 30 hour shift, these medical students are very prone to making mistakes.

So,a patient should be necessarily interested if they are entering into a hospital, how long the person attending them has been awake. Ask them before you accept their care! Request a new physician that has gotten some sleep before you accept the care, if you are capacitated enough to think about this while sick or injured.

So, where does this lead my thinking? The idea that there are less rather than more physicians out there has to do with the gatekeeping functions that are used to keep the medical professions at their elevated and elite status within our capitalistic system that supports the industry. The less doctors there are, the more they cost to get them to work on you. There is a basic supply and demand curve working here. Also, the hospitals are co-dependent on the cheep labor provided by medical students and so they chew them up and spit them out only sporadically.

What we need is a new system of training medical professionals such that it opens rather than constricts the pipeline thereby increasing the number of doctors to reach a broader community, and if the supply/demand curve works in both directions, shrink the cost of quality care.

We also need to stop stretching the use of residents to serve the hospital bound population beyond the elastic snapping point. Doing so could prevent a myriad of medical mistakes from happening.

As you can tell, this is a wide ranging comment with only the suggestion of a solution rather than a concrete plan because we really haven’t touched on the structure of teaching hospitals and the universities that support them. There is no end to the complexity of the problem and it will require an equally complex solution.

Blog on brother.

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