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	<title>Comments on: More on Torture and Democracy</title>
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	<description>Bringing Sanity Back To The World</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Grandlund</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2005/12/more-on-torture-and-democracy/#comment-1010</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Grandlund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(response)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;matt- thanks. I'll be writing regularly...sort of.</description>
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<p>matt- thanks. I&#8217;ll be writing regularly&#8230;sort of.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Vella</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2005/12/more-on-torture-and-democracy/#comment-1009</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Vella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome site, I'll be reading regularly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome site, I&#8217;ll be reading regularly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Grandlund</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2005/12/more-on-torture-and-democracy/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Grandlund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(responses)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Athene- Aren't our freedoms what our armed forces fight to protect? Who's the one demoralizing them now. I wonder? After all, they aren't dying to defend leadership that is corrupt and above the law, are they?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for dropping by.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Windspike- You are right- zealous fundamentalists of any stripe tend to be bad news for the tolerant majority.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Trust must be earned, and once lost is hard to regain. But to evaluate the worthiness of ones trust, one also has to have open eyes, something sycophants are sorely lacking.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the comment.</description>
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<p>Athene- Aren&#8217;t our freedoms what our armed forces fight to protect? Who&#8217;s the one demoralizing them now. I wonder? After all, they aren&#8217;t dying to defend leadership that is corrupt and above the law, are they?</p>
<p>Thanks for dropping by.</p>
<p>Windspike- You are right- zealous fundamentalists of any stripe tend to be bad news for the tolerant majority.</p>
<p>Trust must be earned, and once lost is hard to regain. But to evaluate the worthiness of ones trust, one also has to have open eyes, something sycophants are sorely lacking.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: windspike</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2005/12/more-on-torture-and-democracy/#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator>windspike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What troubles me most about the whole situation - and you draw an interesting correlation with the spying and the tourture - is that when you have a president who feels like and is emboldened enough by his own hubris that he thinks he is above the law and answers only to God, then we are in for a very rocky trip.  Note, fundamentalist governments in Iran and other such places are no different.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If W believes he can issue secret orders that are a direct constitutional violation, how can we trust him when he is behind the drawing up of a new ban on torture (or at least agreeing to it on the face).  I don't trust him.  Why others do is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>What troubles me most about the whole situation - and you draw an interesting correlation with the spying and the tourture - is that when you have a president who feels like and is emboldened enough by his own hubris that he thinks he is above the law and answers only to God, then we are in for a very rocky trip.  Note, fundamentalist governments in Iran and other such places are no different.</p>
<p>If W believes he can issue secret orders that are a direct constitutional violation, how can we trust him when he is behind the drawing up of a new ban on torture (or at least agreeing to it on the face).  I don&#8217;t trust him.  Why others do is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Athene Aquinas</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2005/12/more-on-torture-and-democracy/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>Athene Aquinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, check out this pic here... lol that's one heck of a church :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.athene.biz/index.php/archive/maher-humor/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, check out this pic here&#8230; lol that&#8217;s one heck of a church <img src='http://commonsenseworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.athene.biz/index.php/archive/maher-humor/" rel="nofollow">http://www.athene.biz/index.php/archive/maher-humor/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Athene Aquinas</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2005/12/more-on-torture-and-democracy/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>Athene Aquinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Ken I absolutely agree, there are many "paper tigers" out there.  NEVER give up your freedoms or your morals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Ken I absolutely agree, there are many &#8220;paper tigers&#8221; out there.  NEVER give up your freedoms or your morals.</p>
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