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	<title>Comments on: How Payday Loans Help the Terrorists</title>
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		<title>By: Chandira</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2006/05/how-payday-loans-help-the-terrorists/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Ken, I'm glad you might give this a think over.. I bet you'd come up with a smart answer. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;England does a lot of things on a 'means-tested' basis, and I'd love to see banks do loans on that basis, and taxes be paid that way too.. More so than they are right now. &lt;br/&gt;Sadly the means-tested thing will always lead to a few abusers, and it makes it somewhat difficult to get out of the 'poverty trap' where leaving welfare gets too expensive once you have to pay more of your own way, but mostly it works well. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'd love to see the Bill &#038; Melinda Gates Foundation take that one on. No or very low-interest loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Ken, I&#8217;m glad you might give this a think over.. I bet you&#8217;d come up with a smart answer. </p>
<p>England does a lot of things on a &#8216;means-tested&#8217; basis, and I&#8217;d love to see banks do loans on that basis, and taxes be paid that way too.. More so than they are right now. <br />Sadly the means-tested thing will always lead to a few abusers, and it makes it somewhat difficult to get out of the &#8216;poverty trap&#8217; where leaving welfare gets too expensive once you have to pay more of your own way, but mostly it works well. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see the Bill &#038; Melinda Gates Foundation take that one on. No or very low-interest loans.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Grandlund</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2006/05/how-payday-loans-help-the-terrorists/#comment-1351</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Grandlund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(responses)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dotbar- Hear, hear! I too have been pretty poor, but never went to the payday places. As for the rich...what can I say that you don't already know? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cryptojoe- ATM's don't charge you if you are a customer of the ATM owner. So those fees CAN be avoided. Not so for those stuck in the payday loan trap. I agree with you about those who cry poverty and spend their money on luxury items instead of gasoline or food or whatever they really need. But while it is easy to say don't spend more than you make, it is harder to develop a real budget and stick to it without some education about how to do so. Also, when costs of food and transportation go up but wages don't, managing to spend on what you need without an increase in income can lead to a slow accumulation of debt despite best efforts.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Chandira- Banks don't do a lot of short term loans for one thing. And those that do still want some kind of collateral. These sharks have found a niche and exploited the rules of decency to get their nut.&lt;br/&gt;I agree that we need to look for alternative ways to lend money to people who really are stuck in a temporary bad spot and just need a temporary hand up. Something to put on my thinking cap about...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ryan- You are welcome. Drop by anytime.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Mike V- Thanks-and you are right. Some good news of note is that some legislators are seeking to revise the legislation regarding these businesses. Sadly, it is too few doing this kind of work. Maybe a tide of decency will catch on...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Marie- There was bound to be something eventually. Thanks for persevering!</description>
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<p>Dotbar- Hear, hear! I too have been pretty poor, but never went to the payday places. As for the rich&#8230;what can I say that you don&#8217;t already know? </p>
<p>Cryptojoe- ATM&#8217;s don&#8217;t charge you if you are a customer of the ATM owner. So those fees CAN be avoided. Not so for those stuck in the payday loan trap. I agree with you about those who cry poverty and spend their money on luxury items instead of gasoline or food or whatever they really need. But while it is easy to say don&#8217;t spend more than you make, it is harder to develop a real budget and stick to it without some education about how to do so. Also, when costs of food and transportation go up but wages don&#8217;t, managing to spend on what you need without an increase in income can lead to a slow accumulation of debt despite best efforts.</p>
<p>Chandira- Banks don&#8217;t do a lot of short term loans for one thing. And those that do still want some kind of collateral. These sharks have found a niche and exploited the rules of decency to get their nut.<br />I agree that we need to look for alternative ways to lend money to people who really are stuck in a temporary bad spot and just need a temporary hand up. Something to put on my thinking cap about&#8230;</p>
<p>Ryan- You are welcome. Drop by anytime.</p>
<p>Mike V- Thanks-and you are right. Some good news of note is that some legislators are seeking to revise the legislation regarding these businesses. Sadly, it is too few doing this kind of work. Maybe a tide of decency will catch on&#8230;</p>
<p>Marie- There was bound to be something eventually. Thanks for persevering!</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, something I agree with you on!  I think usury should be illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, something I agree with you on!  I think usury should be illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike V.</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2006/05/how-payday-loans-help-the-terrorists/#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent post, Ken.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;these places are pure and simple loansharks.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I understand the need for responsibility of the consumer, but there also has to be some control of those that will take advantage of others in such a reckless way..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent post, Ken.</p>
<p>these places are pure and simple loansharks.</p>
<p>I understand the need for responsibility of the consumer, but there also has to be some control of those that will take advantage of others in such a reckless way..</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2006/05/how-payday-loans-help-the-terrorists/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hated those places even without the connection to terrorism.  Thanks for the insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hated those places even without the connection to terrorism.  Thanks for the insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Chandira</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2006/05/how-payday-loans-help-the-terrorists/#comment-1347</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Ken. We have one of those places down the street, and I want to throw a molotov cocktail through the door. And me a so-called pacifist.. ;-) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can't undertand why people don't go to their bank, don't they charge a lot less interest? Maybe I'm not aware of some of the issues people face, but that would make sense to me.&lt;br/&gt;We're all implicated financially, I posted a thing on socially responsible investing a while back. If we're lucky enough to be near the other end of the scale, and have money to invest, that's also somewhere we can make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Ken. We have one of those places down the street, and I want to throw a molotov cocktail through the door. And me a so-called pacifist.. <img src='http://commonsenseworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t undertand why people don&#8217;t go to their bank, don&#8217;t they charge a lot less interest? Maybe I&#8217;m not aware of some of the issues people face, but that would make sense to me.<br />We&#8217;re all implicated financially, I posted a thing on socially responsible investing a while back. If we&#8217;re lucky enough to be near the other end of the scale, and have money to invest, that&#8217;s also somewhere we can make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: cryptojoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryptojoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd never go to one of these payday loan places, but think about it, is it much worse than an ATM charging you $2 to take out $20, that is 10% of your withdraw, a major rip off.  Smart people go to their own bank, or, if they can't at least take out $100, so the $2 isn't such a large percentage.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And Education - that is easy, don't spend more money than you make.  I crack up when some is complaining about their credit card debt yet they have a big screen TV in the livingroom, a rack full of 500 DVD's, while checking the time on their TAG watch.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF="http://cryptojoe.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow"&gt;cryptojoe.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d never go to one of these payday loan places, but think about it, is it much worse than an ATM charging you $2 to take out $20, that is 10% of your withdraw, a major rip off.  Smart people go to their own bank, or, if they can&#8217;t at least take out $100, so the $2 isn&#8217;t such a large percentage.</p>
<p>And Education - that is easy, don&#8217;t spend more money than you make.  I crack up when some is complaining about their credit card debt yet they have a big screen TV in the livingroom, a rack full of 500 DVD&#8217;s, while checking the time on their TAG watch.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://cryptojoe.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">cryptojoe.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: dotbar</title>
		<link>http://commonsenseworld.com/2006/05/how-payday-loans-help-the-terrorists/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>dotbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always hated the exploitation of the poor.  and its always the rich who think Pay Day Loans are a service.  If its such a great service, how come they are never in line?  I was pretty poor for many years and I've found that A)it costs more money to be poor than to be rich B)no one understands what its like unless they've been there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always hated the exploitation of the poor.  and its always the rich who think Pay Day Loans are a service.  If its such a great service, how come they are never in line?  I was pretty poor for many years and I&#8217;ve found that A)it costs more money to be poor than to be rich B)no one understands what its like unless they&#8217;ve been there.</p>
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